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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:14:53 GMT -5
Originally posted by Jinsei
The process of slowing down someone's body functions using the Force, in effect placing the person into a healing trance. The use of this technique is frowned upon in the Jedi Order as it can easily kill a person if used incorrectly.
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:15:50 GMT -5
Empress Palpatine said:
Do you mean doing it to someone else or to yourself?
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:16:10 GMT -5
Jinsei said:
I'm not sure. It came from Wikipedia via one of the books or games, but I'm pretty sure it means doing it to someone else. Perhaps someone who knows more about it will come along. Although, it might be interesting to discuss both sides of it.
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:16:52 GMT -5
tomw2005 said:
In the New Jedi Order books Luke slows down his pulse to save himself from a poison but that name isn't used, that would be a similar idea at least.
Tom W
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:17:11 GMT -5
Jinsei said:
Thanks Tom! Now I know what to look for on this. I've heard of the ability to slow your heartrate, so I should be able to dig up something.
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:18:03 GMT -5
Empress Palpatine said:
Yogis were known to be able to do things like this. They could go into a form of hibernation.
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:19:21 GMT -5
Icarus said:
Jinsei,
This technique is also used in shamanic circles and by some Reiki practicioners.
Basically, it is all about letting yourself balance with the energy of the Force around you. It is necessary to breathe in and out at deep levels, but at a very slow pace. You must consciously think yourself down to slow your heart rate and respiration. Then, you can feel the gentle vibrations of the energy around you. You slowly balance your bodily rates with the energy around you. It is a type of "becoming one" with the Force. It is not nearly as hard as it sounds.
Many women learn to do this during childbirth. I was taught to do this a while back. I went to have a physical done, and decided that I would test this technique with a doctor/instruments present. Before the doctor came in, I did the above on her exam table. When she came in to do her tests, she told me that I should be dead. When she said that, I brought myself out of it and we discussed this. She wanted to know more about it and I wanted to know more about the results, so we had quite a long conversation.
The danger isn't in slowing the rates down. It is in bringing yourself back to normal consciousness. People that have heart troubles, BP disorders, or metabolism problems should do this only under the direction of a trained Master.
Anyway, that's all I know about this. Good luck.
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:19:44 GMT -5
Hecate said:
Yes, I've had a similar experience when I had a Kirlian photo taken I discharged my own energy first, and the photo suggested I was barely alive.
I do think childbirth can illicit something similar. Having done it three times, the last time finally getting the hang of it I allowed my whole being to merge with the baby, the Source and the energies outside me, so in a way I ceased to be and in another became everything. It was beautiful.
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:20:11 GMT -5
Icarus said:
Do you still have this Kirlian photograph??? I'd love to see it.
Childbirth is funny anyway. I mean, you spend 9 months awaiting the blessed event, and then when it starts, you're thinking (screaming) to yourself: "Uh, NO! I'm NOT ready!!!"
Seriously though, on my first baby, they pumped me with so much Demerol that I was completely out of my mind and spent 36 hours hallucinating. But, with my second child, I did just as you described above. It was truly amazing. With my third, I did the same thing, but for some reason, I spent hours crying. I still don't know why that happened.
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:20:34 GMT -5
Hecate said:
Sadly I don't have the photo any more.
I did the crying thing with one of them as well. Sat there with tears pouring down my face actually saying 'I don't know why I'm crying, I'm not sad'. LOL Who can say what it was all about.
I like being a woman, our intimacy with life and creation is a beautiful and life enhancing thing.
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:21:10 GMT -5
Empress Palpatine said:
The whole baby scene was a turnoff for me from day one (and I am female). When I was 13 or 14, I used to see the young mothers at church having remembered them before they had a baby. It was like they were suddenly dumbed down. One could not even carry on a conversation with these people. I was so turned off that I swore never to have any myself (and I never did and I am 43). Babies always smelled bad somehow so I never wanted to hold them. Funny though, I love kittens and puppies. In my life were two momma cats who had litters, and I did enjoy having kittens around. The momma cat did not get weird on me or change or dumb down; perhaps this is why this experience went over better.
I have had it where I slow way down and feel the Force. I just sort of ooze out. It is like a barrier is breached and I can feel all that is outside me energy-wise. I can feel animals souls more than humans or human babies, even some trees on occcasion, especially big old trees. I think if one is to ever really get deep into the Force, it is best to live away from people and among critters and nature (except perhaps a very trusted person).
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:21:51 GMT -5
Hecate said:
Empress Palpatine wrote: I think if one is to ever really get deep into the Force, it is best to live away from people and among critters and nature (except perhaps a very trusted person).
In part I would agree with you, it's a whole lot easier to do out in nature and away from mans idiocy. But then again one can do it in a crowded place and feel the energy there just the same.
Have you ever tried meditating in the middle of a mall? It's a fascinating experience. You can feel and see (depending on how these things work for you) the energies trailing behind people as they move, becomeing one with everything you can feel their reality, their connection, even if they are far from seeing it themselves, as you slow to breathing with the iniverse it all merges and becomes one. It's worth a go, it's not as one might imagine. But just because we are humans failing to understand humanity doesn't mean it's any less there than out in nature.
Bearing children is powerful, creative, allowing the Source to enter your body in another way altogether. Your choice not to, of course, no diminishment of what you feel intended.
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:22:22 GMT -5
Icarus said:
Empress Palpatine wrote: The whole baby scene was a turnoff for me from day one (and I am female). When I was 13 or 14, I used to see the young mothers at church having remembered them before they had a baby. It was like they were suddenly dumbed down. One could not even carry on a conversation with these people. I was so turned off that I swore never to have any myself (and I never did and I am 43). Babies always smelled bad somehow so I never wanted to hold them. Funny though, I love kittens and puppies. In my life were two momma cats who had litters, and I did enjoy having kittens around. The momma cat did not get weird on me or change or dumb down; perhaps this is why this experience went over better.
I know what you mean, Empress. It seems like some women, when they have babies, they just absorb into the baby and nothing else exists. They forget that they are still a unique person in their own right. They pour everything that they have into the baby and have nothing left of themselves. When you try to talk to them, about them, they only speak of the baby and use words like "We are learning to crawl. We are eating solid foods." That always drives me crazy. I mean, shouldn't these moms have already learned this stuff?
In other words, new moms sometimes forget the "I".
But, I do not-and have never- seen children/childbirth that way. I have always seen my children as unique individuals that have (how does JIm put it) their own dharma to walk. There is no "we" unless we are doing something together-like driving to the store, reading a book together, meditating together, or heck-even battling in the front yard. Ok. I'm done ranting. I know, it's a shock. This isn't four pages long, but I have a government test to study for.
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:23:00 GMT -5
Icarus said:
On second thought, I have one final thing to add. Maybe these moms that are "dumbed down" are just exhausted.
I once fell asleep walking down the hallway after the birth of my second child. I woke up when I ran into the wall.
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Post by Hachelen on Feb 1, 2007 18:24:02 GMT -5
Draconis said:
I may never have children. I grew up without my mother and it was a positive so if I had a child I wouldn't want them to be influenced by a mother. It is to easy to be spoiled or dependent on the parent.
If my mother and Father had stayed together than I would be a horrible person. You would have to meet my mother to really understand. My step-mother negatively influenced my siblings in many ways: no discipline, manners, respect, and they were also very spoiled. These are just a few things I really wouldn't chance for my kid because there are to many ways to be effected negatively by a mother.( no offense to any mothers, just speaking from personal experience) Please remember that I don't trust anyone,family, friends or otherwise.
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