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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 11, 2009 22:53:33 GMT -5
In my explorations about Tesla and Tesla coils, I ran across something which is really cool; and I would say, Force inspired. They are a music group who has figured out how to actually make music with Tesla coils, and make it sound good. I think even Tesla himself would have been impressed. I don't think Nikola Tesla had music in mind when he first invented the Tesla coil. He wanted a way to transmit electrical power through the air and also a way to change ordinary electricity to super high frequencies. He ended up making his own lightning. When he had them turned on, bulbs would light up on their own because the air around the coil for several feet was so charged up. Tesla coils has become somewhat of a sub-culture because there are all sorts of people making them. Just enter "Tesla coil" in a Youtube search and see all the marvels that people have made from tiny table top ones to huge ones as big as a tree. Most of them are just plain noisy, but these people have caused the Tesla coil to give forth a pleasing yet loud sound. Enjoy these youtube short videos:
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 11, 2009 23:10:39 GMT -5
There is one very cool thing that they do. One of them actually plays with the lightning. He looks like a happy wizard dancing with the Force. He has to wear s special suit to do this otherwise he would be killed by the bolts. a touch of Star Wars: Now if only Luke Skywalker were so prepared when he went to confront the emperor. If he had been wearing such a suit (a Faraday suit), he would have been unaffected by Palpatine's Sith lightning. (Oooh...looks like I just told Jedis how to be Sith lightning proof )
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 11, 2009 23:23:06 GMT -5
This explains exactly how they do what they do. It is a bit technical, and I got only perhaps five percent of it; but I am sure there are people who may see this and understand it even more. For more, visit their web site: arcattack.com/about.php
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 11, 2009 23:46:39 GMT -5
Right now, the group is overseas. They are from Texas. I would love to see them live one day.
I have yet personally to see a Tesla coil. It is one of those must-do-before-I-die things on my list. I have a plasma ball however, which is a bit related.
I wish to get a feel for the energies that surround it; for even at a safe distance, it puts out quite a field, enough to light up a florescent bulb. I have read some biographies about Tesla which have some descriptions of what they are like and what they do. Not being a technical person, I only have a general impression. They are transformers of a sort. They take ordinary electric juice, the kind that comes out of your wall socket. It changes it to a higher frequency and a high voltage. The voltage comes bursting out of the top like a cup running over, in the form of a big bright arc. If a person were standing there, it would hit the person and flow into the ground and back up into the coil. They could kill unless the person wears a special metal suit from head to toe.
I would be curious as to what the field feels like. Something strong enough to light a bulb should feel interesting. Hence, my fascination with Emperor Palpatine, who was basically a human Tesla coil. The Sith in me wants to know of this aspect of the Force.
There are some people who have managed to create frequencies of electricity that won't hurt humans. Tesla himself did this. He was known to let electricity flow through him to the point where he physically glowed. I did find one example of someone doing as Tesla did:
The people who do this really know what they are doing because a mistake can be fatal.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 12, 2009 0:02:55 GMT -5
I have a plasma ball which is a form of electricity that is touchable. In fact, I have two. Each one feels a bit different. They do have a "living" feel. After touching the plasma ball for awhile, my own Force sensitivity increases. I feel that in some way I connect to it. It makes me feel a little happier and a little smarter sometimes. I wonder if Nikola Tesla himself was electrically Force enhanced because he was surrounded by his electrical devices for hours per day.
Question: If a martial artist spent some time near a Tesla coil or plasma ball, would his abilities be enhanced? I know there are those who practice martial arts. I would be curious what sort of result one would get if before a match, one absorbed electricity.
Would anyone who does some sort of metaphysical practice find that they had better results if they touched a plasma ball first (or got near a Tesla coil)?
There was a fellow who was into some sort of alternative medicine who bought a Tesla coil and was claiming that being near it for a few minutes a day had a healing quality. Unfortunately I no longer can find this particular Youtube video.
I know there are all sorts of metaphysical practices that people do that visit boards such as this. I was wondering if we could just "plug in" so to speak and tap the Force out of the same juice we use to power our TV's and computers.
Has anyone else asked this question or looked into such a possibility?
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Post by Jinsei on Aug 12, 2009 11:32:23 GMT -5
Actually, many Wizards use plasma balls in training. The basic concept is to turn the plasma ball on in a darkened room, that way you can focus solely on the ball itself. Then, you focus your energy on the plasma ball and try to get it to arc towards you.
They can also be used to make your aura visible, simply by touching it. Which allows people to place a hand on it, then work towards shifting their aura color with a focused mind.
This is actually one of the reasons that I started learning about electromagnetic fields. As a practitioner of magick, I know that it's just energy that we focus and send out from ourselves, sometimes through the use of other items to help build up that energy. So, I wanted to know if electromagnetic fields showed how the flow of the Force (magickal energy) moved. I've described technology as being, "Stabilized Magick" because it works almost everytime we attempt to use it, but some people, such as my wife, can break something electronic simply by using it... she's broken dvd players, vcrs, lamps, phones, elevators, etc.
As someone who's also a moderate cyberpunk/steampunk, I believe that technology is simply using something that works and building upon that, much the way magick is. The first computers required a glass tube, a drop of mercury, and quartz crystals as stoppers at each end. Most wands that are used in magick, to amplify and focus power, consist of at least a crystal, some glass too. So, I've been working on ideas to blend modern technology and magick together, in a way that will complement each other. Electricity is generated by performing an action that results in it being discharged, but the electricity that comes through our wires isn't exactly stable. Humans can generate electricity simply by rubbing our hands together. The warmth that results is a build-up of electricity that's generating heat.
So, it's quite possible that we could use the electricity coming through the wires to operate something that could help us tap into the Force, but it would require something that actually steps down the raw electricity to make it safe for us to handle. One thing that comes to mind is the "Cybernetic Chamber" from the Star Wars Expanded Universe. It was a large chamber that had a single seat in the middle of it and used a laserwave link to transmit Force energies long distances. Exactly how it would work needs to be fleshed out a little. I would assume that in reality, it would be an insulated chamber that caused any excess Force energy to loop back into the room. The chair itself would be hooked up to the energy grid, with contact points that would allow safe amounts of electricity to flow through to the user, which could facilitate the build-up of Force energy. This energy would then likely have to be dispersed safely afterwards, as too much of anything is never a good thing.
Honestly, this was one of the things that I considered building at one time. I was trying to figure out how to build a real sarcophagus from Stargate. The one thing that I know about it is that it requires energy to be circulated through the sealed chamber. Being able to use something like a Tesla Coil to supply that energy was one idea. The basic idea that I had was that if the energy could be used to activate dormant cells or re-energize dying ones, without the harmful effects of the EMF, then it could revitalize someone, if not heal things over time with regular use.
Ultimately though, I shelved that idea for a while and started looking at Sensory Deprevation Chambers and the use of meditation while in the salt water. Still haven't fullly developed the idea, but that's where I left it.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 12, 2009 17:44:51 GMT -5
I have two of those plasma balls. One has one of those little boxy things on the cord where you plug it in. It changes the electricity from the AC to DC. It feels a little different than the other one I have which just has an ordinary cord (which I assume means the electric it uses is the same as the AC from the wall plug.) That one has a jittery feel; whereas the other one has a softer feel. I found out later that DC current flows more like water whereas AC is shifting back and forth, hence why they call it alternating (a rapid shifting).
Actually, until recently I did not know that electricity has so many forms. I thought it was all the same. It wasn't until I started reading about Tesla that I found out different. The earliest electricity used was from electrostatic machines which use rubbing of something to generate juice. Then they came up with early batteries which were huge messy and clonky that were DC. Electricity they were using in the 1870's or so was DC (direct current). Thomas Edison used this kind. It wasn't very efficient. Then Tesla came along and invented the first usable alternating current along with transformers and the whole system of electricity that is sent to your home today.
What really surprised me that the feel of it, so to speak, has to do with its frequency. This has also to do with how deadly it can be, or less deadly. The stuff in your wall is 60 hz, and it can kill. The plasma balls change it from that to something more agreeable to human touch. Higher frequencies of a certain range are more agreeable to humans. Tesla was very much interested in all the various ranges that were possible with electricity. The plasma ball was one of his inventions. Some call them Tesla balls.
Some of the ideas you mention here sound a lot like some of Tesla's ideas. He had lots of ideas but did not get to try out all of them.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 12, 2009 18:40:09 GMT -5
I find that after touching a plasma ball, or even being near one, I seem to be as touchy feely as a cat. I more easily feel other fields, like coming out of the TV or some other gizmo. Something about them opens up sensitivities. They can also lift me out of a bad mood, especially if I just focus on the feel of the electric going through me. The effect is increased if I have bare feet on the floor. I asked someone if this is my imagination, and he said it is not. I am making a ground connection which strengthens the flow. It would seem also after touching one, even after leaving it, I still feel a sort of flow going on in me. It is like the thing gets something started, better than any other standard form of meditation. There is this very cool web page that shows how some of the early gizmos actually worked (in a way for a non-technical person like me can understand). They are Java applets, little moving pictures. You just have to have Java on your computer to have them work (it is a free download and they offer a link to it right there. I do not know about its working with dialup. It may be worth a try). www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/java/index.htmlSome of them show where the fields are. I know what you mean, it is hard to figure out where and how they go. This guy seems to have figured it out: www.bugman123.com/Physics/Physics.htmlHe shows the field on a Tesla coil: Fields seem to wrap around like a snake in some cases. I found some things on the web one can play with to see what fields look like (More Java applets): www.falstad.com/emstatic/www.falstad.com/mathphysics.html
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 12, 2009 18:58:42 GMT -5
"Electricity is generated by performing an action that results in it being discharged, but the electricity that comes through our wires isn't exactly stable. Humans can generate electricity simply by rubbing our hands together. The warmth that results is a build-up of electricity that's generating heat." I bought this: scientificsonline.com/product.asp?pn=3081446&cmss=human+bulbYou hold it while rubbing something to generate enough charge. It works best on a dry winter day. I tried it and it works. With electrostatic, it builds up, then discharges. If you want to do it again, you have to build up the energy again. The stuff out of the wall keeps flowing. It is not from rubbing but from moving magnets near coils of wire. It is rather complicated. I understood the story of the first person to figure out how to make it-Faraday. He took a coil of wire and moved a magnet through it and noticed that every time he moved it, juice flowed. They figured how to do this in a steady rhythm and that is how the power plant gives us our juice. What I do not know yet is about humans and electricity, since humans are not made out of magnets and copper wire. Ours is different. There was a man who was interested in "animal electricity," Galvani. He took legs from frogs and zapped them. They moved (dead and long since cut off from the frog). Unfortunately, his personal life turned into a disaster and he did not get to continue on with his experiments. I wish he had.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 12, 2009 21:20:42 GMT -5
So, it's quite possible that we could use the electricity coming through the wires to operate something that could help us tap into the Force, but it would require something that actually steps down the raw electricity to make it safe for us to handle. One thing that comes to mind is the "Cybernetic Chamber" from the Star Wars Expanded Universe. It was a large chamber that had a single seat in the middle of it and used a laserwave link to transmit Force energies long distances. Exactly how it would work needs to be fleshed out a little. I would assume that in reality, it would be an insulated chamber that caused any excess Force energy to loop back into the room. The chair itself would be hooked up to the energy grid, with contact points that would allow safe amounts of electricity to flow through to the user, which could facilitate the build-up of Force energy. This energy would then likely have to be dispersed safely afterwards, as too much of anything is never a good thing. Honestly, this was one of the things that I considered building at one time. I was trying to figure out how to build a real sarcophagus from Stargate. The one thing that I know about it is that it requires energy to be circulated through the sealed chamber. Being able to use something like a Tesla Coil to supply that energy was one idea. The basic idea that I had was that if the energy could be used to activate dormant cells or re-energize dying ones, without the harmful effects of the EMF, then it could revitalize someone, if not heal things over time with regular use. Ultimately though, I shelved that idea for a while and started looking at Sensory Deprevation Chambers and the use of meditation while in the salt water. Still haven't fullly developed the idea, but that's where I left it. I did not quite get to this (dinner call . This was the sort of thing Tesla was interested in. His biographers say that he personally absorbed electricity and got strength and other things from it. Someone said (or I read somewhere) that the mesh on the door of a microwave oven is made so that the microwaves won't get out. It relates to the Faraday cage idea. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cageThere is tons about Tesla coils on the web. I am not nearly clever enough to make one. Usually it is people who are familiar with electrical stuff in general. I found it hard to find anything in plain English. www.rb59.com/tesla-coil/tesla-coil.htmlwww.ehow.com/how-does_4564039_tesla-coil-work.htmlezinearticles.com/?How-Does-a-Tesla-Coil-Work&id=1475101www.extremeelectronics.co.uk/tccct/users.tm.net/lapointe/HowItWorks.htmwww.stargazing.net/Astroman/Theory.htmland a youtube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN0YlOmxyRkI like this web page: tesladownunder.com/If you ever do make one, I'd love to hear about it and see pictures of it.
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Post by Jinsei on Aug 12, 2009 21:38:53 GMT -5
See, that's the tricky thing with electricity... it can be altered, stepped up, stepped down, etc. Bio-electricity is different, because it's generated by living beings, which has to do with a complicated network that moves fluids, heats up, and moves more fluids. As they said in The Matrix, humans are just batteries. All living creatures generate their own electric field, even the most basic organisms seem to have some level of discharge. The human body just happens to function the best when the body temperature is near 98.6F, though it doesn't have to be exact. The electricity that comes from the power plant is artificially generated. Sure, it's much more complicated, but it's still basically moving two things past each other to generate a current. Batteries are actually much older than the 1800s. The Baghdad Battery is thousands of years old. It's basically a clay pot, with a copper tube that has an iron rod inside of it. (see image) One of the wands that I started working on for my wife utilizes this same basic concept. Because of the Baghdad Battery design, her finished wand will basically be a copper tube with an inner iron rod, at the bottom there will be a copper end, that is separated by epoxy, which will hold the bottom of the iron rod in place. The top, will allow the iron rod to extend beyond the copper tube, but it will again be separated by epoxy. On top of the iron rod will likely be something like a Hematite point, to help direct the energy. The idea is that since it will be a wand, it will also be able to store energy as it is used, then a larger supply of energy can be directed outward. I know, not quite what you were asking about, but it's one thing that I thought I'd present. I was thinking more about using plasma balls today, in conjunction with the Meditation Chamber idea. This made me wonder how well it would work out if the plasma balls were incorporated into the design of the chair, since they already step down the electricity to a safe level. In a darkened room, you would only see the effects of the lights coming from touching it. This would work out well for what most people call 'magickal visualization' because you could literally see the lights flowing into your hands, which in conjunction with your mind, could allow you to focus more on tapping into the Force. A rudementary way to do it would be to simply sit it on the floor or table, plug it in, turn off the lights, sit down, and begin your meditation while using it.
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Post by Jinsei on Aug 12, 2009 21:46:43 GMT -5
Actually, if I'd have finished the designs, it would have basically been a Faraday cage, with the Tesla Coil somehow placed directly below the person, with it being setup that so the waves form a feedback... similar to that last pic you posted. While the outside of the bed would have likely been square, the inside would have had rounded edges, that so the waves could flow freely back towards their starting point. Idealy, this would have been done with the whole bed being completely round, but by the time I got to those drawings, I was designing something that was at least 6x6x6 feet (nevermind the 666). If I had enough money and space, I might have continued with the idea. Unfortunately, that would take up a small bedroom or a large closet just to build the prototype, not to mention the money needed to construct it.
So, until I can find a way to direct the waves inside of something the size of a coffin, I don't have any plans to try designing one that uses electricity.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 12, 2009 23:05:49 GMT -5
I did wonder if there might be some electrical or other related devices from the deep past, especially electrostatic machines or batteries. I remember the movie the Matrix saying how we were batteries. I guess we'd have to be rechargeable. Hmmm....does it make us DC rather than AC? (I read that batteries are by nature DC.) That old picture also makes me think of these: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyden_jarIt is conceivable that these could have been made a much longer time ago than stated. They are made to store a charge, but they release that charge all at once when discharged. In the 1700's and 1800's they used to show them off by lining up a bunch of people all holding hands. They would release the charge out of the Leyden Jar and the jolt would go all the way through the line of people. This was considered weird and amusing then. It is akin to the capacitor en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CapacitorThe capacitor is an ingredient in a Tesla coil (not sure the details of how it works though). I suppose your wife's wand could be thought of as a sort of capacitor as well? Now here is something to think about as far as the nature of electric energy in humans. I have watched Youtube videos of Tesla coils zapping, both musical coils and regular coils. For some reason, I feel a bit charged after doing so. Obviously, the electricity I see is just a recorded image. The electricity is not actually there with me. Does seeing them cause me in some way to generate my own juice? I have actually had better meditations after I watch Tesla coils for 10 minutes or so, even if they are recorded images on film.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 12, 2009 23:13:29 GMT -5
I wonder too, if we have poles, sort of like a magnet. The field flows like the pattern of the magnet. Energy goes up from our spine, up the back, out the head, and around again. When touching a plasma ball, I feel more being drawn up through my feet. It is like the range is somehow increased. Possible theory: Chakras are transformers, changing the energy as it flows up. Not sure of this, it just seems so.
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Post by Jinsei on Aug 13, 2009 10:22:19 GMT -5
In order to be an actual capacitor, which is ultimately what I'd like for it to do for her, I need to be able to fit a capacitor inside of it. I still haven't quite figured out how to do this part of it, because some of the older capacitors that I've found... salvaged from old stereos... don't fit inside the outer tube. The smaller ones that are on the market today, I think are just too small. So, I'm kind of left with building my own, which can technically be done with aluminum foil and plastic wrap. I don't like the idea of the plastic wrap or aluminum foil. I've thought about using old soda cans, cut up into thin strips, rolled around a wooden rod (or coat hanger) with enough space to avoid shorting out, then either dipped in epoxy or coated with rubber cement to insulate it. By doing it this way, I think that I can make one that will fit into the end of the wand, which would require a shorter iron rod... no big deal. With the use of a capacitor, I would be able to use the end fixture, which is likely to be a Hematite horn, as an antenna. So, the very base of the wand would act as a rudimentary battery, which is charged by the user. The next section would act as a capacitor. Finally, it'd be topped with an antenna. Now... if I could find a way to work in a transistor, a tuning capacitor and headphones, I might have a transistor radio. Actually, that's where the original idea for the wand came from, because I wanted to cross technology and magick, and the wand seemed to be one of the more obvious ideas to work on. I don't see why there'd be an actual energy transfer through the computer. I once watched a documentary on tv about how they make Tupperware, and it said that they couldn't enter the room without eye protection, because the light could instantly blind someone. My dad was watching it with me, so I asked him what that meant for us, and he didn't have an answer. A few years later, I was told that the light's wavelength doesn't transfer through the television accurately, because it uses a different method to display it. This is also why we can look directly at the sun on television, but not in real life. I would assume the same is true of looking at a Tesla Coil. However, there's a link between the pleasure centers of the brain and personal energy. Perhaps simply seeing them in action is something that you enjoy. It's something worth looking into.
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