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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 10, 2009 22:31:58 GMT -5
There are the three dimensions that we all know. There is the fourth dimension of time, and then there is my dimension right here. I welcome all to come set a spell, get a cup of tea (wish I could serve it , and look at what goes on in my brain (or should I say "brane." ) I will start off with thoughts on dimensions, and hope a few of you share your thoughts on dimensions as well. I believe that in order to be a Force sensitive, one has to reach beyond our common four dimensions. Meditation is one way to do this. I also think certain other forms of contemplation can help with this goal. One way is to give a lot of thought to the nature of dimensions. What would a fourth physical dimension feel like? (To be less confusing, I'll call it the fourth physical dimension to not confuse it with time.) Welcome to Flatland: (It seems we get ads here. Don't worry about it. The board did it. It wasn't me.) Have you ever felt like that square? I have. Have you ever had an experience of an esoteric nature and found it nearly impossible to describe?
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 10, 2009 22:54:50 GMT -5
There is another great visual aid to help imagine higher dimensions. This is a series of little filmlets. They start out with dimension one and work their way up to nine or so. Go to this link: www.dimensions-math.org/Dim_E.htmChoose "Watch the films online." Choose English or American English. The list will appear. Just click to start film. The first one is dimension one. The next filmlet will start automatically when the other finishes (but you can pause it). It does not sound like anything spectacular at first, but as they go along there are some very weird visual effects. It is best to view them in order so they make some sort of sense. The visuals get more and more bizarre as the dimensions go higher. More or less, it is about seeing things form a different point of view. Enjoy.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 11, 2009 0:30:10 GMT -5
The first filmlet, dimension one starts with a globe and a brief speech about longitude and latitude. Later it shows how they can project all the surface continents of the globe onto a flat surface. It is an unusual map, oddly distorted. This basically shows how they can project something from a higher dimension to a lower one.
The second one, dimension two, is another version of the flatland story. It literally shows how a flatlander would see three dimensional shapes. They would look weird from that viewpoint.
The third one, dimension three, as well as the fourth one, dimension four, is how to see four dimensional shapes. They are very bizarre but very beautiful.
The fifth filmlet gets a bit into math stuff where I admit I got lost. The end result, however, is quite cool. The results are in the next one.
The sixth filmlet shows unusual distortion of images. If you ever wondered how they make those beautiful fractal images, this shows how they do it.
(It is getting late here on the Florida west coast, so I will have to mention the rest tomorrow.)
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 11, 2009 12:37:48 GMT -5
The seventh and eighth one show all the weird things one can do with circles. The last one number nine is for the math freaks. It is a proof of why stereographic projection, the method they have been mostly using, works. I personally do not comprehend all the math, but I like the results they get because they help one to see things that would normally be impossible. It shows us that there are things which go beyond our ordinary experience. There is another small film about dimensions I found: www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.phpThis one is really cool.
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Post by Jinsei on Aug 11, 2009 13:16:57 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I can't pull up the videos from the house... I've got dialup. I've seen some of the video footage that they've shown on tv and some stuff that I watched in school. I remember the one that was shown from a two-dimensional man's point of view while looking outward at a three-dimensional world.
Basically, he was living on a piece of paper that was laying on a desk. His entire planet was drawn out on the sheet of paper, in that weird fractal map style. So, the paper had been cut out to reveal only his world. People on his world could literally fall off the map, simply by walking over to the edge where three-dimensional reality kicked in. As they looked up in the sky, they could see people walking around, but the people looked basically like the chopped up map, with their heads split apart to account for it being two-dimensional. A ball was never a ball, but more like a saw blade. As people came closer to the paper, their faces would constantly stretch and shift to be able to fit into the lack of a third dimension.
All really strange to watch, because it was kind of how I imagine tripping on acid would be. Yet, oddly it was how science says that reality is.
I can't say that I've seen any four-dimensional images, aside from those that take into account time, which usually ends up being a blur.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 11, 2009 15:38:27 GMT -5
Too bad because they are very cool. If you ever get access to broadband at a friend's house, they are worth a look because they will dazzle you.
Carl Sagan tells the Flatland story. That video clip is from the Cosmos series. It is a story about a bunch of flat squares that live in a totally flat world. A three dimensional apple invades their world to try to communicate with them. All they can see of this apple is a series of slices. In the other filmclip, it is a bunch of flat lizards that can only see a three dimensional shape in a series of slices. In both cases, the Flatlanders need time to see the 3D "alien." The next film clip shows how we, who are limited to the 3D need time to see a 4D shape. We see a series of configurations of a shape. If we were 4D ourselves, we could see it all in the same moment. In a sense, the Flatlanders see the third dimension as time as we see the fourth dimension as time. So, it is implied, if you were a fifth dimensional being, you'd see time as still (the line of time as one dot, one thing.) It would be like seeing your whole life from birth to death all at once.
I think this has implications of an esoteric nature because when Buddha had his enlightened moment, he saw his whole life at once. This seems to be a common thread with accounts of moments of enlightenment or satori, etc. One sees all moments of time at the same time. I think that what happens is that a person temporarily moves up a dimension. It is like the moment when the apple, in Sagan's little story, brings the square up to his/its level; and the square has an unusual experience of the dimension of "up." When the square settles back down to his 2D world, he cannot easily describe to the other squares what he saw. It is totally outside their experience.
One thing in common about all enlightened sages is that they have trouble describing their experiences.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 11, 2009 15:53:47 GMT -5
Here are some still images especially for those who do not have broadband. This is a tesseract or hypercube, which is four dimensional cube (or actually a "shadow" of the real thing as one cannot fully represent this object in our limited world. This is the Escher drawing of 2D lizards becoming 3D: The same web page which has the films also has still images and info: www.dimensions-math.org/Dim_chap_E.htm
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Post by Jinsei on Aug 11, 2009 15:56:34 GMT -5
I don't know exactly what satori or enlightenment is like, but I've had a few experiences that I believe come close.
The first that comes to mind is something that I've mentioned to others here. As I was driving with my family in the truck, doing 70 mph, a van coming in the opposite direction that was originally going to turn right, suddenly decided to turn left, coming directly at us from two lanes over. I clearly remember seeing the front of her van being right at my door, which for a truck the size of mine, meant that she could not have possibly missed hitting us. However, time itself appeared to stop long enough for me to drive safely past her and out of the way. The next few days were fueled by a feeling of being completely 'free' of everything, as if the world itself were just a dream.
The second that comes to mind occured when I was soaking in a tub of nice, hot water. I tend to meditate when I'm in the bath, because I can get in and completely relax my body. This particular time, I experienced a sudden rush of all of my memories up until I was almost twenty, which stopped when I snapped back into reality. What in reality took only a few seconds, I experienced as being almost twenty years, while still being fully aware of where I was in the tub.
So, while I can't exactly explain what occured or what I felt afterwards, they're things that can be illustrated for others to somewhat understand. It's interesting to think of it being a temporary raise in dimensional reality.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 11, 2009 16:18:11 GMT -5
It sounds like you had some momentary experiences in the next higher dimension. I have had it where certain information about something literally enters my head all at once, too fast for my brain to process. I have to sit there and wait for my mind to play catch up. Or I have had dreams that made perfect sense while dreaming them, then no sense at all upon awakening. Some of these where the sorts of dreams where I am everywhere or everywhen all at once. I wake up going "huh." I found more pretty pictures similar to those in those films: The web page where these came from is here: www.bugman123.com/Fractals/Fractals.html
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Post by Loretta Anakin Skywalker on Aug 11, 2009 23:57:25 GMT -5
To add my two cents to the dimensions. This first picture is of two Branes coming together and forming two universes. These Branes represent parallel universes on different Branes. This next picture is of slices of bread. Brian Green in the Nova series called The Elegant Universe used bread to illustrate how close each universe is to each other. Yet we can not just jump on the slice next to ours. This last picture is of the Calabi Yau. They are six dimensions curled up at each intersection of Einstein's Grid. These dimensions are tiny. If you were a particle you could go into the Calabi Yau and appear any where in the universe when you popped out again. These tiny particles are the only real life "Jumpers". This is the unpredictable world of Quantum Mechanics. I just thought I would add a few more theories about other dimensions to the pot.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 12, 2009 23:24:20 GMT -5
I wish I could jump universes sometimes. There is a theory out there that every possibility has its own universe. Perhaps even George Lucas' fiction is reality on some other brane! www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/manyworlds/byrne.html
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Post by tomw2005 on Aug 26, 2009 17:23:38 GMT -5
This last picture is of the Calabi Yau. They are six dimensions curled up at each intersection of Einstein's Grid. These dimensions are tiny. Shorter than the Planck length (~1.6 x 10^-35 metres) in fact, a distance which it is impossible to measure. Tom W
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